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What DA made me hate

Thu Jul 10, 2008, 12:48 AM
  • Mood: Artistic
  • Listening to: Chris Field - Floating
  • Playing: FF12
  • Eating: I'm on diet
  • Drinking: Water (as always)
There's no single day that passes when I don't roll my eyes at what's on the front page, be it prints, most popular deviations or DDs. And then, when taking a closer look at those featured pictures, what do I find? Rabid fans with chronic blindness. I'm going to mention ~ElMafia's journal here, and I wonder the same question: "What's wrong with the art in DA?".

I wanted to talk (rant) about this issue that's been driving me nuts since not weeks, nor months... but years. It's a serious issue here in DA, and I found hope as recently I've noticed I'm not alone in this. The main thing here to cover, is a list of all those things DA (or, its users) made me hate with wrath through the time. Wether you are an artist who belongs to this list or a person who worships artists who belong to any of these categories, please, don't flame. I don't need that. However I feel safe enough as my friends in the community and artists I devwatch are most of them, exempt of being here. So, after days and days of feeding my hobbie (which consists of feeling hatred towards repitition), I come up with this list (no particular order, and I might forget something):


1. Naruto related art. Everything that belongs to this category is the cause of fanorgasm. I must mention that I've never watched nor even read a single book of the manga. And most likely, never will. Yet I hate it with passion. To the point I'd love to create a software that removes every Naruto related image/video/AMV from the internetz. I'd pay for it. Absolutely.


2. Bleach related art. Same as the above. With the difference I dared watching the first anime episode. And didn't find it amazing at all (thanks to DA mayhaps?).

3. Final Fantasy VII related art. Never played that game. Well yes, I tried. I won't start a debate wether this is a good game or not. I just don't want to see any more Cloud or Sephiroth ever in my life, thanks to the fans. The list of anime I hate goes on but I won't talk more about specific series/games.


4. Cosplay in general. 'Nough said.


5. 'Artistic' nude photography. If there's a female crotch, the more favs it's more likely to have. I'm glad tho it's not like some months ago, where every day you saw boobs on the front page (most of them belonging to DDs). I'm glad the mods opened their eyes. Some.


6. Furries and anthro (seriously, what's the difference?). I never cared less about furries. Really. Until I came to DA. Now I hate them with a passion beyond limits, to the point that it's not considred art by me. No matter how skillful you are drawing fur, or how skilled the artist is in general. I just plain dislike it. Please, just draw normal animals with real anatomy instead.


7. 'Big eyed cliched kawaii anime characters'. I recon anime was my starting point. When I was like... 15 or something, I started to love more drawing thanks to this cool beat 'em up game called "Rival Schools" for Playstation. Like the nerd that I was, I recorded the video scenes with my VHS and then paused it, to draw from the stills. And that was my beginning into the anime world. It was my huge step into the illustration thing. And then I became interested into this manga and anime world. I bought magazines, read articles, etc. I just plain loved it. But it's been 10 years after that, and I've grown up. I don't mean Anime sucks now. I mean that BAD anime sucks. I love classics like Ghibil movies, Bloodhunter D, Tokyo Godfathers and so on. They have style, they're good. But now all these cliché series with big eyed cute girls don't stop. They're just everywhere, the more cliché the better. The more unvelievable the hairstyle, the better. I could keep on going. My point is, this is art for preteens, not for grownups. Or maybe for grownups with bad taste. We burn stages in life, that's one of them.


8. Batlantly photomanipulated photos (and artists claiming it's painted from scratch). I can't stress this enough. I would mention several 'artists' here and in other communities, but I won't. I just can't stand cheaters. I mean, there's nothing wrong with photomanipulation per se, but saying "This took 2 hours. No ref" it's just a slap in everyone's face. I could start a debate here, but that's not the point. The point is, if you don't want them to know your technique, then don't lie about it. Just don't mention it.


9. Last but not least, photomanipulations of faeries/goddesses/magical women wearing night gowns or wonderful dresses being in a forest/landscape/seashore. They're everywhere. If they have wings or magic, the better. You've seen them. And you get tired of them. Well, me at least. It's just... I can't stand it anymore. There must be a point where enough is enough.

:iconelmafia: wanted to add a couple more:

10. When it comes to the rules about drawing something to do with sex, it's not allowed. How come then it's allowed to shoot nearly pornography like photos? AND. How come on of dA's most famous (infamous?) drawers are allowed to draw porn with preteen girls? If a new member did this, the bamhammer would be there faster than you can write "porn".

11. And.
People are of course allowed to dispose their camera as they please. And of course a self potrait is fine every now and then. But shooting only yourself in a truely emo position with some of mom's makeup doesn't make you a photographer, nor gives you gallery much variation. And still people fav this like blind idiots, can't they see that it's just for them to pick up their beloved Sony Digital Camera and walk into the toilet, put on their most emotional face while splashing some water in their face - and voila. They just discovered the seecret technique.



Don't flame me if you don't agree with me. I don't need that. Nothing will change my opinion regarding this. I'm sorry. I'm living
in a free country and I think I'm right to express myself freely. It not... Well, DA will speak for itself.

I'm sorry for this whole rant, hope you understand that it feels better getting it out.

Have a good weekend everyone.

Peace! :peace:

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I couldn't agree more with you, girl. Of course. One could always say:"It's not the artists' fault how they become popular cos of their fanbase" (as a certain someone here on dA without mentioning names are loving to use as argument) But then when they start:
1: Thinking their da Vinci and what not cos people like their art, and they can not make mistakes, as a certain friend of yours. Or
2: Start complaining about how they come on the front page, and how they dun like their fans. Well, there's always a way to stop it; stop posting. Make everyone happy.
So there's no way to really defend the artists anyway. Only that people need to wake up and realize that one can't make an outstanding painting by letting Photoshop do all the work. Nor lie about it later and say you've done it all by yourself when it's easy to see the person have used stock photographies and not even bothered to shade them so they fade in to the pick. (Yes, you know who I am talking about, and if this person ever reads this journal, god bless her soul for taking a god damn hint).
Word.
"Start complaining about how they come on the front page, and how they dun like their fans. Well, there's always a way to stop it"

Another way to stop it is starting to draw real art instead.
I hate cosplaying as well.

I do fav naruto fan art,bleach,ff7 etc... I like furry/antro art.

But a lot of the stuff you did say I did agree with you.

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Of course. Not only base your life on sick fetishes I will not even mention x_X And draw in the same style for decades.
You know, I agree with you on every single point you posted up there. I think the 'art' part of deviantart ceased to exist a LONG time ago. I stick around here just because, hey, it's the most popular site and I can find a lot of good artists here, and the system is cool. But if I want to look at good art and hear honest opinions, I go to GFXartist or ConceptArt.

It'sa bit sad because dA ruined a few series for me that I otherwise (would have) loved :\
Wow. I couldn't agree with you more. Especially on #8. That pisses me off to no end. I'm not all that great at digital painting, but I've worked my ass off on the ones I've done, putting hours and hours into them... And then I find the photomanipulated "paintings" that the "artists" claim took them a couple hours and people believing it. I probably shouldn't get so angry about it, but it makes me see red.

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I'm not addressing you here, but i wanted to add something as well.

I've learned that dA is a general artistic rathole. If you're on dA for the art, then please don't expect so much from it. I've learned that rather than boost the creative process and fuel a passion for art, dA has actually sapped the fun right out of it. It's just like watching a never ending popularity contest.

While I feel like being around other artists can be beneficial, I also find that when one tries to gather inspiration from a place like dA, they often get overwhelmed with the sheer vastness of talented artists and/or multitude of cliches. Breaking free from the system is as easy as never logging in again, but also as hard.

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I feel your pain. Especially with the Naruto,Bleach,big eye'd anime junk and boob stuff...*Sigh* I mean faved a few good ones here and there but Seriously people need to find something else to draw and take pictures of.

..Also, OMG! I'm a huge fan of Rival Schools. I'm glad to know that someone else loves that game as much as I do. :D

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what i understand is that you hate the very same things that you yourself have origins in. although, as i might not feel as strongly, i do agree i am tired of seeing so much of the types of art you mentioned.

but what i dont understand is how you can hate the same things you used to do, that should let you understand it.

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Totalmente de acuerdo. Los desnudos artísticos y los furries esos me tienen cansado.
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